Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:05): I make that point again that we ought to be focusing on serious public policy issues. Senator Abetz: Border protection policy. Senator CHRIS EVANS: In passing, Senator Abetz hit on one, which is that important issue of dealing with unauthorised arrivals in Australia and the management of our migration and humanitarian programs. The opposition will have their chance to participate in that debate in a serious way in coming weeks. You will have an opportunity—through you, Mr President—to take a serious public policy position on whether or not you support the government's legislation directed at dealing with the issues in this serious public policy area. The opposition will have to put up or shut up. Whether they will continue to mouth meaningless rhetoric or whether they will actually respond in the national interest for a decent public policy response, time will tell. We will learn this in the next few weeks.