Senator CONROY (Victoria—Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) (14:49): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Senator Wong: Are they worse off or not? The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong. Could both leaders desist from talking across the table. Senator CONROY: My time has still been running. The PRESIDENT: You will be allowed to ask your question. Senator CONROY: Has the minister been invited to attend the meeting between the Prime Minister and Senator Lambie on ADF pay? Can the minister confirm reports he has yet again been sidelined, with the Prime Minister set to back Labor's call for a better pay deal for ADF personnel?