Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:48): The one fact those sitting opposite me do not want to address is that they so badly managed the finance of this country that we are left with a fiscal situation we have decided to take responsibility for. We are taking responsibility— Senator Lines interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator Lines. Senator JOHNSTON: We are taking responsibility for the financial mess their incompetence, their negligence, their stupidity and whatever else you want to call it bequeathed to us because they could not get their numbers to add up. We shouldered that responsibility honestly and determinedly. You can try and pretend as much as you like that you did not make any fiscal mess but I can tell you: the people out there are waking up to the fact that we now pay one thousand million dollars a month in interest. (Time expired)