Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Manufacturing and Minister for Defence Materiel) (14:33): My recent trip to Detroit highlighted that in Detroit there is confidence in the Australian automotive industry, there is confidence in General Motors Holden and there is confidence in Ford, and it is a pity that there is not the same level of confidence from those opposite. It is a pity that the shadow ministry has not taken that view. It is one year tomorrow, I think, since that infamous pledge by the Liberal Party to take $500 million from the new car plan—$500 million! They refused to offer any assistance, what is more, beyond 2016. So in reality their proposal is to take $1.5 billion from the automotive industry. What we have is a situation where the opposition is voting for cuts to jobs in the automotive industry. They are voting for the destruction of the automotive industry in this country. (Time expired)