Mrs ANDREWS (McPherson—Minister for Industry, Science and Technology) (14:43): I thank the member for his question. I congratulate him on the great work that he's doing in his electorate to engage with his community, especially with small and medium enterprises. We know that they are the backbone of the Australian economy. When I meet with Australian businesses the single biggest issue that they raise with me is their input costs, and energy costs are a significant part of the input costs for our businesses. Yesterday I held a manufacturing forum where there were a number of representatives of industry and a number of leaders of industry. This morning I met with CEOs who are members of the Australian Industry Group. When I speak with leaders many talk about the most significant issue for Australian businesses and Australian industry, Australian manufacturing in particular, being their input costs, and energy is a significant cost for them. This is particularly important for our small and medium enterprises, because many of those operate on very thin margins. So the cost of energy is a significant issue for them. On this side of the House we are very focused on making sure that we keep energy costs as low as we possibly can. That is in direct contrast to those opposite, who took a range of very high-taxing policies to the election. I should point out that the election policies of those opposite were rejected by the Australian people. The Australian people were acutely aware that the policies of the coalition government were the policies that were going to keep their costs down, particularly their energy costs. We are working hard to make sure that they stay down. That's entirely different to what is happening on the other side of the House. They clearly have no energy policies. They are in disarray. They have not yet come to terms with the fact that they did not win the election. Mr Conroy interjecting— Mr Keogh interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Shortland will leave under standing order 94(a). If the member for Burt wants to keep interjecting, he may as well just go now too. I will give him the choice. The member for Shortland then left the chamber. Mrs ANDREWS: I can tell the members opposite that Australian industry is very relieved that it is not currently faced with Labor's 2030 climate target to cut emissions by 45 per cent, which would have sent its energy prices through the roof. But they are clearly in disarray at the moment, because they can't work out whether they are going to cling to the policies that have already been rejected by the Australian people or whether in fact they are going to escalate the damage that they were planning to inflict on Australian industry with another electricity tax. The Australian people are so pleased— (Time expired)