Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:43): As I've said on a number of occasions now, Gladys Liu, who has been elected as the member for Chisholm by the people of Chisholm, consistent with all of the requirements under our Constitution and our electoral laws—having defeated the Labor candidate who was a member of similar organisations, and, in fact, the same organisations—and having made similar observations about not having been aware that she had been made an honorary chairwoman and the like— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: On direct relevance: I asked a very specific question. I asked this minister, representing the Prime Minister, to give an assurance that the member for Chisholm is a fit and proper person to be in the parliament. I ask him to give that assurance. The PRESIDENT: On this point of order, you've restated the question, Senator Wong. That is not a legal test. I'm using those words in the vernacular sense. That is not a legal test, nor is it a matter for anyone to determine someone's eligibility in this parliament—only the court, or indeed this chamber referring it to such. Therefore, in this case, because that is a question asked not in the legal meaning of that term, I believe the minister is being directly relevant when he is speaking this way. Senator CORMANN: Let me say to you again, very slowly: the Prime Minister has full confidence in the member for Chisholm. And you know what? The Labor Party think that they can run any smear and that is somehow going to reverse the democratic result at the last election in the seat of Chisholm and elsewhere. That is what this is all about. You're going through your seven stages of grief. You're not accepting the verdict of the Australian people. You're trying to smear a great Australian who has come here as a migrant and has worked very hard and who has been endorsed by the people of Chisholm at the last election. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann. Senator McDonald.