Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Human Services) (14:38): I also want to add to the observations I made earlier the announcement last week by La Trobe University, which indicated to students entering through their Aspire Program in 2015 that their fees will not increase more than 10 per cent above the regulated student contribution for each year of their degree. That will not make the level of the scare campaign of those opposite either. The groups that represent universities have issued a number of public statements and they have issued modelling showing that universities can be relied upon to act responsibly in their setting of fees. Senator Conroy: I can see pigs flying around the chamber! Senator PAYNE: Apparently assurances from the Australian Technology Network, the Innovative Research Universities, the Group of Eight and the Regional Universities Network are worth nothing to those opposite. They mock them, they scorn and they run their scare campaign. But the truth is that the universities that have given fee guarantees to mid-year 2014 students include Deakin, Victoria, Griffith, Murdoch, UWS, Edith Cowan, Flinders University— (Time expired)