Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:04): The way the 38 centres, including those centres that Senator Sterle indicated— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator SCULLION: They are currently being funded by both state and Commonwealth programs as I speak. Out of each of those state and Commonwealth programs is an administrative portion under which each of the centres— Senator Conroy interjecting— Senator Sterle: You have refused to fund them. I was up there three weeks ago. You're not funding them. Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Sterle, you have asked your question. Senator SCULLION: I am trying to answer the question. Somebody just indicated that I was misleading the Senate. I am not so sure that that is in order. Senator Sterle interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Sterle, you have asked your question. Order! Senator Conroy: You are an idiot. The PRESIDENT: Senator Conroy, withdraw that please. Stand up and do it properly. Senator Conroy: I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Minister, you have the call. Senator SCULLION: Of the 38 centres, none of them received any funding from the Commonwealth, either in this government or in the previous government, for administrative processes. They all make them and do very well from ensuring that there is an administrative aspect as part of the processes that they deliver in services. That is exactly how they will continue to be funded. (Time expired)