Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:42): Thank you very much for verballing me there, Senator. One of the things on this side is a rule about accuracy and not about fantasy. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Scullion, just resume your seat. When the excitement dies down I will ask Senator Scullion to continue the answer. When there is silence we will proceed. Senator Scullion. Senator SCULLION: Thank you, Mr President. This is what we actually said: The Coalition will continue the current level of funding expended on Closing the Gap activities, but will examine these costly programmes to make sure that they are directly working to meet the Closing the Gap targets. That is exactly what we have done. We have conducted a review of the programs. We have decided that there is an awful lot of red tape and that there is a lot of waste and mismanagement. I am sure the good senator would understand that. For those on the other side, this was a part of their legacy. We have amalgamated those processes into five programs, five streamlined programs, that are going to be able to deliver a rational and coherent approach to Indigenous affairs that has not been seen in the past. We have actually had over 150 programs rationalised into five program areas that are going to be— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Scullion, resume your seat. Senator Scullion, you are entitled to be heard in silence, continue. Senator SCULLION: So now we have five streamlined programs that not only are people going to be able to understand clearly but will be delivered without having any impact on the services on the ground. So any of the savings that we have made across this budget are not going to have an impact on the ground and that is the most important priority. We promised, as a part of our election platform, not what the senator was suggesting but exactly as I quoted. We looked very carefully at the costly programs, we reviewed them to come up with a better process and that is exactly what we have done.