Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:27): I thank the Greens for a question on the budget today. It seems that the other side over there is not all that interested in asking questions directly about the budget. Let me just say this. The Treasurer is of course absolutely right. We do need to do the right thing by our children and by our grandchildren. And guess what: funding our consumption today, funding our lifestyle today, funding our quality of life today, based on borrowing, on debt and deficits, forcing our children to fund the cost of our standard of living today and pay it back with interest is not doing the right thing by our children and grandchildren. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! When there is silence, we will proceed. People asked the question. They would like to hear the answer. They are entitled to hear the answer. Senator Cormann, continue. Senator CORMANN: As a result of the waste and mismanagement of the Labor Party in government, we are in a situation now where we have to borrow $1 billion a month just to fund the interest on the debt that they have accumulated in government. Just imagine. That is like a family putting their groceries on the credit card, putting their wine and their utilities or whatever onto the credit card and getting their children and grandchildren to pay the price for it. Actually it is worse. It is the same as putting your groceries on the credit card, running the credit card up and borrowing more money to pay the interest on your credit card so that your kids eventually, down the track, have to pay the bill. That is reducing opportunity for our children and our grandchildren. We want to create opportunity for our children and grandchildren. We want to build a stronger economy, where everyone has the opportunity to get ahead. We want to build a stronger economy, where people have more opportunity, not less. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, whilst you only have a short amount of time left to answer the question, I ask you to resume your seat for the simple reason that there are too many people trying to talk across the chamber. It is disorderly. You are entitled to be heard in silence, and Senator Di Natale is entitled to hear the answer. Continue. Senator CORMANN: In relation to the question about young people and the dole: on this side of the chamber we do not think it is appropriate for someone to walk straight out of the school onto the dole. We actually think it is appropriate for a young person to either earn or learn. We think that it is appropriate— (Time expired)