Senator DI NATALE (Victoria) (14:32): Minister, Australians of our vintage have been fortunate enough to grow up with the security of a decent social safety net, access to free universities, universal health care and affordable housing. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Some common decency has got to be given to the person asking the question. Senator Di Natale is asking the question. Senator DI NATALE: Are we resetting the clock? The PRESIDENT: No, continue. I will give you ample opportunity to ask your question. Senator DI NATALE: Minister, given that our vintage has been fortunate enough to grow up with a decent social safety net, free education and universal health care, doesn't that actually make each of us here in this chamber a generation of leaners rather than lifters?