Mr MORRISON (Cook—Prime Minister and Minister for the Public Service) (14:09): I thank the member for the question. I was going to that exact point about the government's fiscal policy, in my response to the previous member's question. We believe it is important to maintain and achieve a surplus. We know that because this side of the House delivers surpluses. That side of the House haven't seen a surplus since 1989. Dr Chalmers interjecting— Mr MORRISON: But I'm asked specifically about the comments of the Reserve Bank governor. I have to once again remind the House of the testimony given by the Governor of the Reserve Bank in evidence to the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Economics, where he said, and I quote: …if the economy is not doing well and the global economy is not doing well, we need all arms of public policy to support the Australian economy. But that's not a call for the government to do more now. … … … I just want to be clear about that. That is the statement by the Governor of the Reserve Bank to the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Economics on 9 August. If the Labor Party can't understand the plain English that is put towards a committee of this House, where the Reserve Bank governor has been crystal clear about what his view is and they want to use and verbal the Reserve Bank governor to try and encourage the government to abandon fiscal discipline, to abandon surpluses, as they did when they were last in government— Opposition members interjecting— Mr MORRISON: This is the difference: our government understands the need to continue to show measure, discipline, certainty and stability when it comes to the managing of the government's finances; those opposite were unable to do that. Ms Butler: You doubled the debt. Mr MORRISON: They saddled this country up for a debt that we'll be paying back for the next decade. That is what they saddled us up to. Mr Brian Mitchell interjecting— Mr MORRISON: When we come to this dispatch box and we say, 'When you can't manage money, you can't run the country', that's what happened when they couldn't pay for pharmaceuticals and they had to tax the Australian people to respond to disasters. The SPEAKER: Just before I call the member for Nicholls: the member for Griffith is now warned, as is the member for Lyons. The member for Nicholls has the call.