Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:59): I don't accept the data that the senator is quoting there, particularly when you look at the retail prices that consumers and businesses are paying, and the contracts that consumers and businesses are able to access. Ultimately, what matters here is what people pay on their electricity bill. And the electricity bills for Australians are improving, relative to where they would have been, thanks to the reforms of our government, which are ensuring that people have more transparent choice and better default conditions and ensuring that the energy market operates more effectively as a result of these reforms. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, a final supplementary question?