Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:00): If you look at, for example, those most vulnerable Australians who find themselves on default market schemes, those Australians are estimated to be $190 better off as a result of reforms to the way the default market schemes operate. Senator Wong interjecting— Senator BIRMINGHAM: Now, Senator Wong may not like that fact, but of course she was quite happy to sit there and ignore those consumers who slipped onto default schemes previously and found themselves being ripped off. This government took the action to reform the way the retail energy market works and to ensure that there is accountability there in terms of the prices those households are offered. Estimates show—in the early days—that households are $190 better off as a result of those reforms—just those reforms in the default market— Senator Wong interjecting— Senator BIRMINGHAM: Senator Wong wants, of course, to be there with gratuitous advice in the interim because they did nothing— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senators Wong and Birmingham. Senator Cormann. Senator Cormann: As much as I enjoy the continued disorderly interjections from Senator Wong, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.