Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (14:51): I thank Senator McKim for the question. In relation to those details, Senator McKim, I will need to take them on notice and revert to you. But in relation to this more broadly, Senator McKim, the only reason these people, as you know, are actually in this particular situation is because of the policies that you supported the last time the Labor Party were in power. This is all about a failure to protect our borders, and the situation which is currently playing out is a direct result of a policy failure by the former Labor government in conjunction with and supported by the Australian Greens. The minister has made it abundantly clear in relation to this particular family's case. It has been comprehensively assessed over many, many years. You will have heard the minister say, 'They have gone on to appeal to the federal magistrates court, the Federal Court and the High Court.' The highest court in our land has found against these people. They have, every single step of the way, explained their circumstances to every decision-maker and judge, and every single one of them—every single one of them, Mr President—has rejected their claim for protection. Even though the Australian Greens do not like this, what that means is that they are not refugees. But, again, in relation to this situation, it goes back to a fundamental failure to protect our borders, and this government has made it very clear—and this minister and the Prime Minister, who is the former minister, have made it very, very clear—that Australia's border protection will always come first. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, a supplementary question.