Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:18): Let's look for a moment at school education funding increases—eight per cent this year, eight per cent next year, eight per cent the year after that and six per cent the year after that. For public hospitals it is nine per cent this year, nine per cent next year, nine per cent the year after that and six per cent in the final year. So school funding is going up and public hospital funding is going up. Ms Plibersek: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I seek to table the Budget Overview, which says on page 11 that $80 billion will be cut from health and education. Mr Dutton: Where's your point of order? The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. The member will resume her seat, and I ask the Minister for Health not to interject. Mr ABBOTT: It is true that after the next election we are changing the indexation method for pensions to bring it in line with the indexation that Labor replied to the family tax benefit. But every year pensions will go up twice. They will go up in March and they will go up in September. The statement that I made— Ms Macklin interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Jagajaga will desist. Mr ABBOTT: I stand by my statements, including statements to this parliament. As for the ABC, what this government is doing with the ABC is applying for the first time in 20 years an efficiency dividend. That is what we are doing. We are applying an efficiency dividend to the ABC. Members opposite thought that the ABC was the one institution that should not be subject to an efficiency dividend. We think it should be subject to the efficiency dividend. The ABC should not be exempted from the kinds of measures that are being applied to almost every other part of government. When we inherit debt and deficit disaster from the Labor Party, when we are faced with $123 billion of cumulative deficit and $667 billion of projected debt, no-one is exempt from the search for savings, including the ABC and SBS.