Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:17): The good news is that Mr Pyne is neither. He is superbly effective, and that is why the Labor Party dislike him. The reason is that he is so consistent is the reason why he continually gets re-elected in the seat of Sturt time and time again, despite the bucketloads of union money that the Australian Labor Party throw at him each and every election. He continually gets re-elected, because he is seen by his electorate not as a hypocrite but as a very effective local member. What I can say to Senator Wong is that Mr Pyne is looking after his electorate and has joined with Mr John Bannon, a former Labor Premier, myself and others to ask the ABC to recognise what is in their charter, look after the regional areas and see whether savings can actually be made in Ultimo. (Time expired)