Senator McDONALD (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:55): Minister, Australians already can't afford their energy bills. Can you at least tell them how much taxpayer funding will be spent on pre-COP in the Pacific? Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, I think if you look around the chamber you will see that I'm in the chair and I make those decisions. Minister Wong? Senator Wong: I'd ask you, President, to consider whether that question is in order as a supplementary question to the primary which was made. The PRESIDENT: It was a tenuous link, but we'll give Minister Ayres the opportunity to answer that question.