Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:18): The minister has gone nowhere near answering how much money the Australian public will be on the hook for for this decision. Let's try for the third time. Can the government guarantee that Australian taxpayers will not have to cop any of the costs associated with the planning, communication and delivery of the COP31 conference in Turkiye? The third time's the charm, Minister.