Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (15:01): I thank Senator Darmanin for the supplementary. We have a five-pillar productivity agenda, which is also being reported on by the Productivity Commission, around creating a more dynamic and resilient economy; investing in the net zero transformation—something that those opposite still don't accept—building a skilled and adaptable workforce; harnessing data and digital technology; and delivering quality care more efficiently. The Economic Reform Roundtable will take place from 19 to 21 August here in Parliament House. It will bring all parties together to build a consensus approach to improving productivity, enhancing economic resilience and strengthening budget sustainability. We on this side of the chamber do want and welcome a frank conversation about the future of our economy. We want real talk about real reforms that will deliver real improvements to living standards and to the budget. We're looking for cooperation and consensus over conflict, and ideas over ideology. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Darmanin, second supplementary?