Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:22): I think the Greens political party's position on AUKUS is well known. I think the Greens political party's position on the US alliance is well known. You're entitled to those views. They are views that do not accord with the views of the majority of the Australian people. They are views that we in this government do not share, and I would hazard a guess—I would hope—that those on the opposite side would also not share those views. While I'm talking about AUKUS—and you've made your views on that very clear, Senator Shoebridge— Senator McKim: Ask Paul Keating about AUKUS! Senator WONG: Are you going to keep interrupting? I like the way that you're happy with having standing orders for yourself but not for anybody else. Is that how it works? Are you done? Senator Waters: Through the chair! The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator WONG: Oh, through the chair? I'm pleased that you are again seeking to impose standing orders on everyone else that you don't impose on your members. The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, on a point of order? Senator Shoebridge: President, I'd just ask you to direct the minister to provide an answer to my question about the $1.6 billion paid to Donald Trump under AUKUS. The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, if you want the minister to answer your question, don't make interjections, because, as you know, the minister is also entitled to respond to interjections. Senator WONG: I will come to the question, but I think the hypocrisy of the Greens is clearly on display. They believe the standing orders should be used to protect them, but not anybody else, nor any other standard in the chamber. We all see that, Senator Shoebridge. You dish it out, but you can't— The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge. Senator Shoebridge: President, I've been sitting here in silence waiting for an answer, and you know that what we got from the minister is not relevant. The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, resume your seat. The minister had just stood up. I'm listening, and I'm sure she is going to come to your question. Thank you for listening. Senator WONG: We are committed to AUKUS because we believe it is an important contribution to strategic balance in the region, and that matters to Australia. It matters to the peace, prosperity and stability of the region. We are invested in AUKUS because we believe that hard deterrence is an important part of preserving stability, alongside the reassurance that can be provided through engagement and diplomacy. So everything we do—whether it is through the AUKUS partnership, our engagement with ASEAN and the East Asia Summit, our alliance with the United States, our special strategic partnership with Japan, our deep friendship and cooperation with the Republic of Korea, our work with India, our work through the Quad or our work in the Pacific—is all about stability and peace in our region. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, first supplementary?