Senator WALSH (Victoria—Minister for Early Childhood Education and Minister for Youth) (14:00): Thank you, Senator Duniam, for the question. It has been a really distressing time in early childhood education as these devastating allegations have been brought forward. It is a really difficult time for all of those families of children affected, families who have children in early childhood education and care and really the whole community that is watching what's going on. We think it's really important that we use every lever that we have to make sure that we can keep children safe in early childhood education and care and make sure that parents have confidence that they are safe too. We have introduced, as you know, really important Commonwealth legislation to cut funding from those providers who put safety ahead of profit. At the same time, we are working shoulder to shoulder with the states and territories— The PRESIDENT: Senator Duniam? Senator Duniam: Just on a point of order on relevance, I asked specifically about the laws that are to come into effect from a state and territory point of view. I am happy with the federal stuff, but I would be keen to hear that. The PRESIDENT: I will draw the minister to that part of your question. Senator WALSH: I had just come to the states and territories on what is a really important issue for children and for families. We are working with the states and territories right now, shoulder to shoulder. We think what families want to see right now is all of us working together. We will have at the next urgent standalone education ministers meeting in August a strong and significant package of child safety reforms. That's because, as you know, every child deserves to be safe in early education. The PRESIDENT: Senator Duniam, a first supplementary?