Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for the Environment and Water) (14:11): I'm not surprised to see members of the opposition moaning and groaning about this topic, because we know they've never met a worker who depends on their penalty rates to pay their bills. We know that they still haven't heard the message that Australians voted for a government that ensured that they are earning more and keeping more of what they earn and that they rejected an opposition that was about cutting pay and making work more insecure. I've got some news for you: penalty rates and overtime rates matter to working Australians. Employees relying on penalty rates are more likely to be women, to work part time, to be under the age of 35 and to be employed on a casual basis. We are talking about people like Emily, a retail worker from New South Wales, expecting her— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator WATT: Oh, you're groaning. You don't want to hear about workers who depend on their penalty rates? How disrespectful. You don't want to hear about people like Emily, a retail worker who says that her penalty rates— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I foolishly thought that, if I asked for silence for the question, I might get silence for the answer. Obviously no-one got that message. There needs to be silence. Senator WATT: Labor wants to hear from people like Emily, who says that her penalty rates let her save a little for her bubba, help her move and ensure that her new little family has a roof over their heads. We're standing up for people like Emily; you might not. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Polley, second supplementary?