Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:47): I look forward to answering the question, and, given the time that I have, I think it's important to alert the Senate of the significance of trying to care for our children, all Australian children. It is of concern that children, in particular First Nations children, end up in custody, in detention, and that is why we have announced a First Nations Indigenous children's commissioner, because we want to see low rates and the rates reduced across the country, obviously not just for Indigenous children but for all children. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, second supplementary?