Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:45): Thank you, Senator Thorpe, for the question. We were able to announce last week a national commissioner for Indigenous children in Australia. The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Thorpe? Senator Thorpe: On relevance, it was a simple question— The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, please resume your seat. The minister has just started her response. I will listen carefully and, if necessary, I will direct her to your question. Senator McCARTHY: Last week we announced the national commissioner for Indigenous children because we see it as incredibly important. The rates of removal of First Nations children in this country are way too high. We certainly see that there is a real concern for First Nations children in Australia. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, first supplementary?