Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (15:05): I would love to do that, Senator Sterle, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to the chamber about that. The Albanese Labor government's reforms and policies make bargaining more accessible for small and medium-sized businesses. It has been designed specifically to support those who are new to enterprise bargaining or are less equipped to navigate it. Small businesses often don't have the benefit of an HR department and can often be shut out of the benefits of enterprise bargaining that many medium- and larger-sized businesses enjoy. For those small businesses who do wish to bargain together, the cooperative bargaining stream is an attractive option as it's voluntary and they can opt in to the stream at any time. Senator McGrath: You're going to cost them more! Se nator WATT: Isn't it ironic that the party of choice and individual choice over there doesn't want to give small businesses the choice to opt in to cooperative bargaining. They're all for choice except when it gives small businesses the choice— Senator McGrath: No way, really? Senator Henderson: Let's send in the thugs to run the HR of small businesses! The PRESIDENT: Senator McGrath, exercise some self-control, please, along with Senator Henderson. Senator WATT: And even when a small business has employees who do want to have multi-employer bargaining, before that can occur it needs the majority of employees to agree and it needs the Fair Work Commission to find that there are common interests amongst those employers. This is good for workers and it's good for— (Time expired) Senator Wong: I ask that further questions be placed on notice.