Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:36): Well, firstly, the senator was critical of the targets. What I understand is that we're a long way from meeting them. The note I have in front of me—and I'll confirm this—is that the target of 70 per cent of plastic packaging was set for 2025, and Australia has been stuck at 16 per cent for four years. I don't know if that's going to be worsened by the subsequent industry collapse, or challenges, that you've described. Clearly, nine years of a coalition government who didn't want to do anything on this has meant we're a long way behind. Senator Henderson: Oh, what? We banned— Senator WONG: Senator Henderson, I'd like you to explain to us, then, why, if you set a target for 70 per cent and announced it, we're still stuck at 16 per cent. The problem with the coalition is that they seem to think that if you announce something it magically happens. Well, transitions and policy take a bit more work than that. The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, second supplementary?