Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:22): I thank Senator Henderson for her question. I totally reject your description of this legislation as 'extreme'. The Labor Party went to the last election saying we were going to lift the wages of Australians and, in particular, low-paid Australians—and that's what this legislation does. If I were a small business operating a cafe or, for that matter, a hotel in the Mornington Peninsula, I would be delighted with this legislation because I would know that for the first time in 10 years low-paid workers will have an opportunity to lift their wages. We know from what the former Leader of the Government in the Senate said that low wages were a design feature of the Liberal Party's policy. A design feature of the Labor Party's policy is lifting the wages— The PRESIDENT: Minister Farrell, please resume your seat. Senator Henderson. Senator Henderson: I rise on a point of order, on direct relevance. I was asking the minister to answer the question in relation to the two businesses: could they be compelled into multi-employer bargaining? Could the minister please directly address that. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Minister Wong. Senator Wong: On the point of order, the question actually put a hypothetical, which also was not in order, but, given what we'd already gone through to try and get to a question previously, I didn't take a point of order on that. But it would be unsurprising if the minister answered in slightly broader terms, given you've put a hypothetical to him. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Henderson. I'll remind Minister Farrell of the question. I note that he started down that path but probably got distracted by the disorder in the chamber. Minister Farrell, please direct yourself to the question. Senator FARRELL: If I were an operator in the tourism industry in the Mornington Peninsula—I'm regrettably not; it would be a lovely place to be operating—I would be saying to all of our community: what's going to help tourism in my community? That's going to be more people coming out and coming into my cafe and coming into my hotel. And how is that going to occur? By lifting the wages of all the people in that community. As we lift the wages of those— Senator Cash: Who's paying for this? The small businesses? Senator FARRELL: Senator Cash, I know you don't accept these fundamental— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Henderson, first supplementary?