Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (14:43): Again, I will repeat the answer to both the primary question and to the first supplementary, which is now the same for the second supplementary— The PRESIDENT: Order. Senator McKim, on a point of order? Senator McKim: Yes. Again, the point of order is relevance. This is farcical. My question was very specific. A generic answer does not answer the question and ought not be considered relevant to the question. The PRESIDENT: What ought or may not be considered relevant is in the rules set by the Senate. The minister was alluding to a comment that the minister was about to make. The minister has to be strictly and directly relevant to what you raised, which was a very specific question, but I do not have the ability to instruct the minister how to answer the question. There's an opportunity after question time to debate it, but it was a specific question and I will constrain the minister's comments to be directly relevant to the terms and the question you asked. Senator CASH: As I stated, decisions to move detainees between facilities are made independently by the Australia Border Force. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim? Senator McKim: Once again, that is a response not relevant to the question asked. The PRESIDENT: No. Firstly, the minister has concluded her answer, so I can't take a point of order. Secondly, despite the fact that you consider it to be unsatisfactory, I do not consider that answer to be not directly relevant, because it goes to the movement of people. You are asking for the content of an answer. You can debate that answer, but I cannot instruct a minister that that statement is not directly relevant. There's a time to debate it, and that is for others to judge.