Senator RYAN (Victoria—Special Minister of State and Minister Assisting the Cabinet Secretary) (14:27): I thank the senator for the question. It is fair to say that that is not something I am briefed on with respect to the minister's portfolio arrangements. Senator Brandis covered all these details in his detailed statement yesterday. If I have anything further— Senator Wong: Porter was the middle man. Senator RYAN: to add— Senator Wong: Porter cut the deal. Senator RYAN: Senator Wong, I am trying to complete the answer. I know you object to interjections when you speak. I am more than happy to come back to the Senate with any further information. I am sure that Senator McCarthy will understand that that is not a brief relating to the Social Services portfolio. The PRESIDENT: Senator McCarthy, a supplementary question.