Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:00): Senator Gallagher, I am not sure that properly characterises what my understanding of the matter was at any time, as a matter of fact. As I said in my statement yesterday, I became aware on 3 March when I received a visit from Mr Porter, who discussed the matter with me. I had a teleconference with Mr Mischin, the Attorney-General of Western Australia, in which Dr Nahan— Senator Wong: When did you first become aware? It is not about your first involvement. When did you first become aware? Senator BRANDIS: I am sorry, Mr President. I am trying to answer the question. I keep being interrupted by Senator Wong. Honourable senators interjecting — The PRESIDENT: Order! Interjections are disorderly. Senator BRANDIS: On 4 March I had a teleconference with Mr Mischin, in which Dr Nahan, the Treasurer, was also involved—as I said in my statement yesterday. That was my first involvement in the matter, although— Senator Wong: A point of order on relevance. We did not ask about his first personal involvement. We understand this Attorney-General's careful use of language. We asked when he first became aware, not when he was first personally involved, which is the language he used. The question was: when and how did the Attorney-General first become aware? The PRESIDENT: The Attorney-General was asked when and how he first became aware. He commenced his answer by answering—as he indicated yesterday—3 March. The date was mentioned. He is now continuing with his answer and is indicating another date, 4 March, for subsequent material. The Attorney-General has been in order. Senator BRANDIS: I know that there had been some communication to my office earlier than 3 March, but my own involvement began on 3 March. Senator Gallagher, the relevant events, to which I understand you refer, occurred in April 2015, which was almost a year before I first became involved. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, a supplementary question.