Senator McLUCAS (Queensland—Minister for Human Services) (14:47): I thank the senator for the question and for his interest in delivering a national disability insurance scheme to our country. The Australian government is committed to delivering the fundamental change needed to make sure that people with disability get the care and support they need to participate as much as possible in education, in work and in community life. I am so pleased that we now have historic agreements with all states, except Western Australia, to roll out the full scheme. DisabilityCare Australia will give people with disability, their families and their carers the care and support they need over their lifetimes and choice and control over the services they receive. In our 2013-14 budget the Australian government has invested $14.3 billion in new funding over seven years to move towards full implementation of DisabilityCare Australia, the National Disability Insurance Scheme, by July 2019. The funding will provide funded support and care packages for DisabilityCare Australia and for local area coordinators and assessments. Assistance to people with a disability not eligible for an— Senator Fifield: Mr President, a point of order on relevance: I have taken a while and let the clock run down because I was hoping that the minister would get to the substantive answer to my question, which was very specific. It related to the category termed 'Other long-term savings' in the graph on page 4 of the document to which I referred, which has a subcategory 'Selected long-term savings from 2013-14 Budget and 2012-13 MYEFO'. The question to the minister was to disaggregate that particular category. The minister has referred to a headline figure of investment, which I am aware of, but the question was to disaggregate that particular category to which I referred. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, there is a need to address the question that has been asked by Senator Fifield. I draw the minister’s attention to the question. Senator McLUCAS: Thank you, Mr President. I think the context is important, but I do take your direction. Can I also indicate to the Senate that the 2013-14 budget measures provide funding of $14.3 billion over the seven years to 1 July 2019. The measures include new funding of $1.9 billion for transition to full schemes, $3.8 billion in 2017-18 and $6.2 billion in 2018-19. But the responsible savings that the senator refers to include reforms to the government’s assistance for private health insurance, reforms to retirement incomes and the phase-out of the net medical expenses tax offset as DisabilityCare rolls out, and other long-term savings decisions in the 2013-14 budget. (Time expired)