Senator MILNE (Tasmania—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:22): My question is to the Minister representing the Minister for Climate Change, Industry and Innovation. I believe that is still Senator Wong. Is that correct? The PRESIDENT: No. Senator MILNE: Who do we have now? The PRESIDENT: I understand from the sheet that is in front of me that it is Senator Lundy. Senator MILNE: Thank you, Mr President. I redirect the question then to Senator Lundy, the Minister representing the Minister for Climate Change, Industry and Innovation. Given the government has said that the funding to climate related programs has been cut or deferred because, when trading starts, the carbon price is likely to be lower than anticipated, and since the trading period does not start until 2015-16 and there are no changes to the value of carbon permits in the fixed-price period, why have you reduced funding to the Australian Renewable Energy Agency to the tune of $113 million over the next two years?