Senator BOB CARR (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs) (14:21): The guide for the government on the appropriate use of aid money is the OECD. The OECD work on this lays down guidelines about what areas of expenditure assisting asylum seekers would be appropriately funded from an aid budget, and the government will adhere to the OECD guidelines. It could well be that there are areas of support for asylum seekers where, according to the international tests, that is considered appropriate and other areas where it would not be appropriate. We will be absolutely transparent about this and, as the government's plans develop, I look forward to sharing with the Senate any expenditure of Australian aid money on any aspects related to the government's solution. Bear in mind that the report of the Expert Panel on Asylum Seekers vindicates the government's approach to the whole aspect of seeking offshore processing that is humane, in that it provides a disincentive to the work of people smugglers, and that is efficient in wrecking the business model for people smugglers and providing a disincentive for people to risk their lives on the high seas. That expert panel report in fact vindicates the government's approach, including the Malaysian arrangement, and is the basis of the government also proceeding to expedite the establishment of processing centres on Manus Island and Nauru. The Prime Minister said this and addressed these concerns when she spoke on Tuesday, 14 August. I might mention that reconnaissance teams have completed visits to Nauru and Manus Island. As recently as last week, they provided advice on logistics and other administrative and organisational issues. Senior officials— (Time expired)