Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:03): I have tried to help the senator with a serious response to what is a complex and serious— Senator Ian Macdonald: Just answer the question! Senator CHRIS EVANS: Senator Macdonald, will you stop being such a bully boy? Just let me answer the senator's question, would you? We know you are rude and ignorant, but this is ridiculous. The PRESIDENT: Senator Evans, that is not necessary. Senator CHRIS EVANS: I withdraw, Mr President. I am trying to give Senator Boyce a serious answer about a serious issue. I have offered the opposition a briefing on this matter. It is a difficult issue, and we have been dealing with employer groups. I would note, however, that a number of employer organisations conducted a series of information sessions for SACS employers in Queensland, so there was an effort to inform people and deal with them. I understand that has not been adequate and that there are people left in a difficult situation, so we are attempting to resolve the situation. I am happy to brief the opposition. We are in the process of trying to resolve the complexities of it and we are working our way through that. As I say, I am happy to brief the opposition on how we are going with that process. Mr President, as much as I would like a question from Senator Macdonald, I ask that all further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.