Senator IAN MACDONALD (Queensland) (14:44): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. I ask the minister: what additional facts did he get that caused him to change his mind from his first decision, which was to ban live cattle exports to just those abattoirs that appeared in the Four Corners program, to his subsequent decision to completely ban those exports to Indonesia? Is the minister aware that there are a number of abattoirs in Indonesia that are run to Australian standards and could continue to slaughter cattle humanely and in accordance with Australian standards?