Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:25): The answer is no. The reality is that the Australian people have not seen a credible alternative from this opposition. What we do know is that this is an opposition that is hard-wired to oppose regardless of the consequences. We know from what Senator Joyce has said that the opposition is intent on not only repealing a carbon price but also repealing any assistance that goes with it. But it is interesting to see that not everyone in the opposition party room thinks this is such a great idea. A senior Liberal was reported in the Sydney Morning Herald as saying, and I quote— Senator Boswell: Can't you even name him? Who was he? Senator WONG: I know you do not want to hear this, but this is one of your own, Senator Boswell: You can't take money away from pensioners, it would kill us. Isn't it interesting? Mr Abbott's strategy of opposing everything some of those on the other side—and I see a few heads bow, deciding to understand the consequences of that— (Time expired) Senator Ian Macdonald: It's no wonder you were such a failure as climate change minister. Senator Wong: You know all about failure. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When the chatter across the chamber has ceased, we will proceed.