Senator LUDWIG (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Attorney-General on Queensland Floods Recovery) (14:17): Broadly, because it is not the usual practice to go through, piece by piece, individual conversations with overseas governments, what I can outline is that in terms of our bilateral relationship Indonesia is and continues to be an important trading nation for Australia. What we have done both through my department, the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, and through Foreign Affairs and Trade is to continue to keep Indonesia apprised of the decisions we have made. Those decisions go back first of all to— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Colbeck: On a point of order on relevance, Mr President: we have asked a number of serious, specific questions regarding this issue because we do take it seriously, despite the allegations from the other side. We asked when the minister first saw images of this nature, when he first contacted the minister and when he took action. All we are asking is that he put on the record specific answers to specific questions. That is all we ask. We are taking this seriously and we are asking specific questions. We ask you, Mr President, to bring him to the question. Senator Conroy: On the point of order, Mr President: Minister Ludwig has been answering a number of the questions that have just been detailed. That was a debating point. If those opposite do not want to listen to the answers because they have prewritten questions, Mr President, then you should dismiss their points of order. Minister Ludwig has been answering the questions and he has been completely relevant to the question. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: It would help, as I am trying to listen to the minister's answers, if people on both sides were not screaming in my ear. That would be the first thing that would assist. I do draw the minister's attention to the question. The minister has 19 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator LUDWIG: As I was saying, the Indonesian trade minister has stressed in her public comments that the Australian actions represent a temporary suspension and that Indonesia is keen to improve practices. In addition to that, President Yudhoyono, in a press conference on 10 June, has recognised the importance of this issue as well. He has asked his minister for— (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting—