Mr SHORTEN (Maribyrnong) (14:57): My question is to the Minister for Government Services. I refer to the tragic death of 22-year-old Jarrad Madgwick, who took his own life following a dispute with Centrelink over a robodebt. I ask the following on behalf of his mother, Kath: does the minister still refuse to acknowledge that robodebt contributed to suicides like Jarrad's? Will he arrange for the Prime Minister to meet with Jarrad's mother, Kath, and myself and the Leader of the Opposition to apologise to her?