Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:56): As reluctant as I am to reflect on the performance of the previous government, the previous government neglected the national interest. They wouldn't recognise the national interest if it bit them. Senator Canavan was a minister in that government— Senator McGrath interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator McGrath! Senator McGrath interjecting— Senator O'Sullivan interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, please resume your seat. Senator McGrath, I have had to call you to order an extraordinarily high number of times this question time, and almost as many times, Senator O'Sullivan, you have been backing in the disorder. I will ask you to listen in silence to the minister's comments. Minister, please continue. Senator AYRES: Senator McGrath is usually funnier! Senator Canavan was a minister in that government. Now he's embarrassed and says that, if the states allowed more oil drilling, these refineries would not have closed. He is dead wrong. Geoscience Australia said Australia has limited conventional oil reserves that are being depleted at a faster rate than they are being replaced by new discoveries. As the new leader of the National Party, perhaps he could pick up the phone to the deputy leader of the National Party in the Senate, who sits diagonally opposite him, alongside the leader of the National Party in the Senate, because Senator McDonald does pay attention to some of these facts, rather than making up alternative facts— (Time expired)