Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:58): I would almost take that interjection, Senator Davey! As you know, the government has a $32 billion Homes for Australia Plan, which is focused on supply. You would also know that you and others participated in blocking very substantial components of that plan. We would have liked to have started much of this much earlier, given the housing supply challenge that Australia is facing. That job— Senator Cash: I raise a point of order on relevance. The question merely asked for a number. The PRESIDENT: Yes, and it did talk about HAFF in the beginning of the question. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! You are not in a debate with me. The minister has only begun her response. I will listen carefully and, if I need to draw the minister to the question, I will certainly do that. Senator WONG: I'm advised that the government, as a consequence of these policies, has directly supported more than 10,000 new homes since the election and, through investing in social and affordable housing, is helping first home buyers get into the market with a deposit of five per cent or less. There is more in the pipeline— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Cash? Senator Cash: I have a point of order in relation to relevance. The question was in relation to the Housing Australia Future Fund. The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is being relevant to the question. Minister Wong? Senator WONG: I have responded to the question, but I would say this in relation to the Housing Australia Future Fund— Senator Bragg interjecting— Senator WONG: Senator Bragg, it does seem somewhat hypocritical to come into here and complain about the rollout of that fund when you are a member of the coalition who have consistently opposed it. The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Cash? Senator Cash: The point of order is again relevance. It is a figure: how many were built? We can tell you the answer—it's zero. You just need to say it. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, if you are seeking a point of order you address your question to me. I've ruled on the point of order. The minister was responding to Senator Cash. I will now remind the minister to go back to the substantive question rather than talking about the senator. Senator WONG: I again say the government has directly supported more than 10,000 homes since we were elected, on top of the 400,000 that have been built nationwide, enabled by the investments in fee-free TAFE and enabling infrastructure. There are more homes to come— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, I will call you when there is order in the chamber. Senator Cash? Senator Cash: Again, it is a point of order on relevance. We are asking for a figure under the Housing Australia Future Fund. We are not asking for the government— The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Cash. As you described, it is a narrow question, but the minister is entitled to go to the context of the question, I am advised by the clerk. I have drawn the minister back to the question. I call the minister again. Senator WONG: I'm advised that 24,000 homes are in the pipeline through direct Commonwealth investment, including 13,700 under round 1 of the HAFF. The PRESIDENT: Senator Bragg, a first supplementary question?