Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:36): Thank you, Senator Cash, for the question. As we all know, small businesses are a very important part of our economy—in fact, the engine room of our economy. I think you would have heard Ms Collins acknowledge the pressures on small businesses right now, which is why the government's policies are targeted at improving the long-term resilience of small businesses and providing practical support for those small businesses experiencing challenges. Our most recent budget helped to ease the pressure on Australia's— Senator Cash: President, I raise a point of order in relation to relevance. This question is about a $13.9 billion cost that, on the government's own analysis, it will impose on small business through its own piece of legislation. It is a specific question about the $13.9 billion hit on small business. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, I remind you that you don't need to repeat the whole question. The minister is being relevant. You talked about the operating environment for small businesses. You went to the issue of insolvency and a number of matters. The minister is being relevant. Senator WONG: Senator Cash, you used an acronym. I assume you were referring to the anti-money-laundering arrangements. It took me a little while to— Senator Green: The stopping crime bill. Senator Cash: It's stopping small business— The PRESIDENT: Senator Green and Senator Cash, order! Arguing across the chamber while a minister's on her feet is incredibly disrespectful. Senator WONG: This is about money laundering which facilitates serious crime. Senator Cash: You're going to wipe out small businesses in the process. Senator WONG: Senator Cash, this is about money laundering which facilitates serious crimes. We have taken action to both protect Australians and combat organised transnational crime. I appreciate that that is an additional level of regulation, but it is regulation with a very important public policy purpose, which is to counter one of the ways in which criminal activities are funded. The gravamen of the question appears to be— Senator Cash interjecting— Senator Ayres interjecting— The PRESIDENT: The senators shouting out across the chamber need to stop. I have said today that questions and answers need to be heard in silence. If you can't manage that, please leave the chamber. Senator WONG: Is the logic of the question that the government shouldn't act on money laundering that facilitates criminal behaviour? Is that the logic of the question? Senator Cash, I am surprised, given your tough-on-crime rhetoric, that you would even ask me such a question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, a first supplementary?