Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:25): Again, I thank Senator Grogan for her question. It really took less than 24 hours for the opposition to show Australians why they can't trust them with our publicly owned assets. Senator Hume was first out of the gate, saying, 'It was always the plan that the NBN would be privatised.' She was asked whether she would support the legislation to keep the NBN in public hands, and she refused. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator Watt interjecting— Senator Hume interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Watt! Senator Hume, when you've finished! Senator McALLISTER: That's right: Senator Hume was asked to confirm her position on if she would support legislation to not sell the NBN, and she refused, saying it wasn't that simple. We then had another Liberal member backing in Senator Hume—solidarity forever!—confirming that it has always been in contemplation that the NBN would be privatised. Lastly, we saw the shadow minister for communications trying to mop it all up on Radio National, but he wouldn't commit to supporting our bill either. Senator Colbeck interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Colbeck, I'm not sure which part of my instruction to be silent when ministers are answering you failed to hear or follow, but you are being disrespectful. Senator Grogan, second supplementary?