Senator TYRRELL (Tasmania) (14:43): My question is for the Minister representing— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Tyrrell, I'm sorry, please resume your seat. We have moved on. I had a senator asking a question and you were still interjecting—particularly you, Senator Ruston—about the previous question. I'd ask you to listen to in silence or leave the chamber. Senator Tyrrell, could you start again, please? Senator TYRRELL: My question is for the Minister representing the Minister for Health and Aged Care, Senator Gallagher. Aged-care facilities are struggling to meet care-minute targets, especially those in cities and regional centres. Media reports show significant issues in the aged-care workforce and around how each person's 200 daily aged-care minutes are distributed. Since March 2021, the government has provided a certification letter to meet regulatory impact statement requirements for the adoption of mandatory care minutes for aged-care residents, but this process has not been evaluated in all that time. So essentially, the government has issued a letter to say it followed the rules when setting care time requirements, but there is no public evidence to show this regulation is actually working properly. So how do we know a regulation process was followed for aged-care minutes when there has been no evaluation on the regulation change?