Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:42): I will pick up on the fact that you said you're not worried about a website—you actually are, Senator Scarr. You actually raised that in your first supplementary. However, let's not put the facts in the way of a good story here. The FFA outlines the states' and territories' responsibility to ensure value for money for public funds. The minister has embedded new assurances and protections in the federation funding agreement, which you do not want to hear. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order across the chamber! I realise you're on your feet, Senator Scarr, but I would appreciate it if senators—particularly on your side, but not solely on your side—came to order. Senator Scarr, on a point of order? Senator Scarr: Relevance. Which states have agreed to the agreement? The PRESIDENT: I do believe the minister is being relevant and I'll continue to listen carefully. Senator McCARTHY: The advice I have given, which I continue to give, is the advice that I've given you, Senator Scarr. If I am provided with further advice on that, I'll bring it back to you. Honourable senators interjecting—