Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:09): Thank you to Senator Ciccone for that excellent question. What I would say is we understand that Australians are struggling with cost-of-living challenges. We know that, which is why this government is working so hard to deliver assistance and support to Australians who are struggling with the cost of living and looking at all the ways we can help—tax cuts for all Australian taxpayers, energy bill relief for every household, cheaper medicines and more bulk-billing, HECS relief for everyone with a student debt—and, of course, fee-free TAFE—support for people from the outer suburbs and regions to go to university and getting wages moving. We also provisioning for higher wages for aged-care and childcare workers. Of course, what have the opposition, who came in here talking about cost of living, actually done? Well, what they have really done is oppose cost-of-living relief at every chance they get. Not only that, but the ideas they put forward would cost more. Mr Dutton's plans would mean higher power prices, higher grocery prices and higher taxes, but there is one thing that would be lower under Mr Dutton. There would be one thing that would be lower— Senator Sterle: Wages! Senator WONG: You got it, Sterlie—wages! Wages will definitely be lower under the Liberals and Nationals. You see, Labor wants Australians to earn more and keep more of what they earn, including early childhood educators and care workers. We are making sure that they are fairly paid by funding a 15 per cent wage increase, and we are always working to make sure the cost is not passed onto families. The wage increase is tied to a commitment from centres to limit fee increases, so better for parents, better for educators, better for children. This is on top of our cheaper childcare reforms that have cut the cost of child care for 1.2 million families. Senator Henderson interjecting— Senator WONG: You don't like the truth do you, Senator Henderson? According to the ACCC, childcare costs were cut by 11 per cent following our reforms—11 per cent! (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Ciccone, a first supplementary?