Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:03): We won't be lectured on this side about the importance of supply chains. We won't be lectured on this side about the importance of having those supply chains. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister, please resume your seat. I have been attempting to call the chamber to order. Minister McCarthy, please continue. Senator McCARTHY: I do pick up on the senator's question there in terms of the way we react and treat the farming industry. I disagree completely— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: Senator Ruston, if you'd let me finish. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Wong and Senator Ruston, it's my role to make sure the Senate is orderly. I will admit I am not always successful at that, but I would ask senators to stop their interjections. Senator McCARTHY: I do pick up on the senator's question there in terms of our work and the legislation that Senator Watt brought in on live sheep exports. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: They don't want to hear. Senator Watt: They don't want to hear. Senator McCARTHY: They don't want to know. They come in here saying that we're not interested in— The PRESIDENT: Minister McCarthy, please resume your seat. Senator Ruston? Senator Ruston: This is on relevance. Maybe the senator would like the question reread. We were talking about pets. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, I do remind you and other senators in this place that there was a preamble to that question about the government's regard for the ag sector. The minister is perfectly entitled to address that part of the question. Yes, Senator Wong? Senator Wong: The opposition consistently interject, particularly on this minister. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Wong: She was responding to an interjection, so you can't have it both ways. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Wong. I have addressed Senator Ruston's point of order. Senator Brockman, a second supplementary?