Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:31): I'm not sure I have figures since the election— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator GA LLAGHER: No, I can give you— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: No, I've got the answer— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, I ask you to resume your seat. The minister was part-way through a sentence and then the chamber on my left, particularly, became so disorderly, I could not hear her response. I would ask you to listen in respectful silence. Senator GALLAGHER: As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted, as at 2 February, there have been 5,067 deaths nationally: 686 in 2020, 226 in 2021, 3,855 in 2022 and 300 in 2023. Now, given the seriousness of the issue that we are talking about, which is the passing of older Australians in aged-care facilities, I think your behaviour just then was disgusting. You ask a question like that and you behave like that. Absolutely disgusting. I had the information. The difference between me and what happened to Senator Colbeck is that I actually had the information. I'm aware of the numbers. I'm aware of what's happening in aged care. So have a laugh over there, by all means, and disrespect the thousands of people in aged care. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cash, I have a senator on her feet. Senator Urquhart? Senator Urquhart: I would ask Senator McGrath to withdraw the statement—what he called Senator Gallagher. The PRESIDENT: Senator McGrath, I did not hear the comments that were made by you or any other senator, but I would ask you to reflect and, in the interest of the good spirit of the chamber, ask you to withdraw. Senator McGrath: I withdraw everything that I called Senator Gallagher. The PRESIDENT: Senator McGrath, when I ask senators to withdraw, I ask them to do it respectfully. You did not do it respectfully. I ask you to do it respectfully. Senator McGrath: The point of order taken by Senator Urquhart asked me to withdraw a comment. You said you didn't know which comment. You asked me to respectfully withdraw a comment. I said many things. I withdraw all of them to assist the smooth running of the chamber. The PRESIDENT: Senator McGrath, you did not withdraw respectfully. Senator McGrath: I withdraw respectfully. The PRESIDENT: Senator Liddle, were you on a point of order? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senators Wong and McGrath! I'm still waiting. Senator Liddle, your first supplementary question. Senator Liddle: My point of order is on relevance. The question was specific to— The PRESIDENT: I understand that Senator Gallagher has finished her response. Senator Liddle: That wasn't indicated. The PRESIDENT: I'll lead you to your first supplementary question.