Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:28): Senator Hanson, I think that everybody in this place, I would hope, understands that the challenges that we see—and some of our colleagues are living in Alice Springs and in the Northern Territory—are not new challenges, and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous. I would hope that the principle is that if you work with local communities and listen to local communities you achieve better outcomes. Senator Hanson, we come from very different political places, but I recognise that you do work in your community, you do engage with your community, and I would think you would understand that policy is intrinsically better if there is an engagement with, and a listening to, the community. The Voice is about Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people having a say. That's what it's about. I think we are stronger when people have a say. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, a second supplementary question.