Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:14): Thank you to the senator for her question. The figures that you are referring to are published in the budget papers. What I would draw to your attention— Honourable senators interjecting— Senator RUSTON: I'm more than happy to bring the budget papers in there and table them if those opposite would like to have a look at them. However, I would draw the attention of the chamber to the fact that this is a demand driven system. That means that people who wish to access the system do so at their demand. The progress of the NDIS has been entirely consistent with its trial and transition phase. Obviously, this has been a large part to do with moving— Opposition senators interjecting — The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Ruston—when I can hear your answer, I'll allow you to continue. Order! Senator RUSTON: As I was saying, this is a largely consistent with the move from block funding into a demand driven system. One of the most important things to realise also is that, as part of this process, 100,000 people in Australia who currently live with disability are now able to access a package specifically designed for their specific needs—100,000 people who otherwise wouldn't be able to. In the case of the question asked by Senator Gallagher, I am more than happy to provide the budget documents so that she can see the exact numbers herself. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Gallagher is on her feet. A supplementary question?